This kind of thing has been going on for years in Thurrock. Why the big fuss now. I mean it's not as though thousands of Africans have suddenly moved to Thurrock is it now.

agree with you 100% pa not only africans but everyrace under the sun . the immigration should do patrols in marked or unmarked vechiles around purfleet deep wharf area thats where alot get in
CHUCK EM ON NEXT FERRY OUT AND GIVE US OUR TOWN BACK

It's funny this sort of story comes out a couple of weeks after the local elections. I'm not saying it would have swayed any of the results but it just seems odd that this comes to light now.

It goes a long way to explaining Why I'm always seeing black people round town and on the trains with suit cases in tow. You never know when you may have to move all of a sudden do you!!

THURROCK!

a hotbed of illegal immigrants and financial fraud, "Operation Tumion has already identified over 1,000 false documents being used in the area to gain employment.

"Intelligence has also revealed a significant connection between illegal working and financial fraud, particularly in the Thurrock area."

What a great advert for all those people who voted Labour And Conservative of the great and colourful cultural diversatity they have voted for and the great benefits this story brings, how by there actions the sort of community they are creating fore their children and grandchildren

P.S. This Is not Africans for essex is it? Oh no that don't exist does it.

It doesn't exist in some peoples minds. however the rest of us actually walk around with our eyes open. Walking through Grays High street yesterday I saw a group of young black boys outside Woolworths. One, who could not have been any older than ten or eleven was openly dealing drugs. This boy had actually travelled from London on the train with me. While on the train he took three phone calls and was openly arranging his drug deals for when he got to Grays.

Maybe when the murders start to oocur locally and not just in London, people will start to look seriously at what they have invited onto their doorsteps.Personally I think it's too late to turn the clock back. The government will press on with their plans to turn Thurrock into a London Borough by transporting people out of London and into here, along with their big fat Grants that also do exist.

The racist groups like TRUST will gain even greater funding and influence over the council as all these groups do in London Boroughs. Little by little white people will begin to see that they are being marginalised, they will come second in all social provisions like housing and health care, as they do in a large number of London Boroughs. This is why so many white people had already moved out of London, the areas they used to live in completely changed as if they had never existed. It really is time to get out.

So 'pa', why didn't you contact the police rather than come and post on here. Talk is cheap, action is what counts. Coward!

Yeah Neil, then after he phones the police, nothing is done anyway and if theres a slight chance something is to be done, they will get let off and pa is left with harrassment from these criminals for being a grass and no police etc to help him!

to the myopic xenophobes:

if I were to glue a £3 coin to the pavement outside your home would you try to pick it up? - In the same vein why do you believe the first thing an invalid news source tells you, such as a certain party’s comedy pages?

It's certainly a British trait to be very vocal with moaning, but not actually be part of the solution or assist those that are...

The country is still 95% "white" but through the "blinded man's" glasses you insist upon wearing, everything appears darker than it actually is. And of course in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king...

pigeon latin:nemo est supra legis, abusus non tollit usum, ubi jus ibi remedium, ubi mel ibi apes, ubi dubium ibi libertas, ubi libertas ibi patria, ubi societas ibi ius, ubi caritas et amor humani ibi est, Usus est magister optimus. nec spe, nec metu.

Well thank you Neil for coming on here and giving me a good talking to for coming on here and airing my views on a newspapers public comments section. It is an offence to ring the emergency number 999 if there isn't a genuine emergency and I doubt the police would class teenagers dealing drugs as an emergency.

What I actually did though, as the lack of police on the streets of Thurrock is obvious to everyone, was walk to the police station and report what I had seen. The Uninterested person behind the desk said she would pass the message on bless her.

Not to sure what action was taken after that but I reckon I could guess fairly accurately. I'm glad to see all those people that are obviously active vigilantes clearing up the streets of Thurrock are that concerned.

Mr Public go and read the story again. Neither I or some of the other people that have posted on here wrote it. Are the Gazette and the police and the immigration authorities now making up nasty stories just to discredit those Africans that clearly haven't moved to Thurrock?

If you glued a £3 coin to the floor you'd probably get done for counterfeiting for one and you'd probably forget you did it and pick it up yourself and try to buy a drink or something with it.

Neil the problem here is the government, not me, with their policies of giving illegal immigrants N.I. numbers so they can go and work, even though they are here illegally. It's cheaper than deporting them, which they don't want to do anyway because it helps to undercut the people who are here legally i.e. us. Or should I say the "longer term residents", as Hazel Blears, the housing minister, likes to call english people born and bred in this country.

Mr Public the solution to stopping Illegal immigration is to deport those that are here illegally. The government has a duty to uphold the law of the land but as they and their policies are clearly set against the law of the land, they are not going to do this.

I don't hear stories of hotbeds of financial fraud and fraudulent documents being used by the "longer term residents".

Presumably by your comments you too support the illegal actions of those Africans that haven't moved to Thurrock.

Close your eyes again and imagine that eutopian rainbow you live in, it will make you feel better.

As for the rest of us, we'll just see hear and experience what is going on around us on a daily basis. Sorry I should have said that isn't happening, it's all a pack of lies, they didn't move here, it's a figment of my and others imagination. There everything has gone away.

pa - at least we can agree on something my friend. :)

I accept your points, but feel you should reciprocally accept mine too. there is a solution, but not with "boots & fists" politics. & I certainly don't condone unlawful actions.

(the suns out again - lets make the most of it...)

Mr Joe Public wrote:
to the myopic xenophobes: if I were to glue a £3 coin to the pavement outside your home would you try to pick it up? - In the same vein why do you believe the first thing an invalid news source tells you, such as a certain party’s comedy pages? It's certainly a British trait to be very vocal with moaning, but not actually be part of the solution or assist those that are... The country is still 95% "white" but through the "blinded man's" glasses you insist upon wearing, everything appears darker than it actually is. And of course in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king... pigeon latin:nemo est supra legis, abusus non tollit usum, ubi jus ibi remedium, ubi mel ibi apes, ubi dubium ibi libertas, ubi libertas ibi patria, ubi societas ibi ius, ubi caritas et amor humani ibi est, Usus est magister optimus. nec spe, nec metu.

You should get your facts correct. If you believe the governments official figures you will see they say 8 million people or 13.8% that's not white. Does that mean the government are wearing those blinded man's" glasses, and they are making everything appear darker than it actually is? I don't think so.

What about the illegal's, that will bring the % down more, also asylum seekers, down lower. What about all the people who go to European countries and get there passports then come here as a european union member, even more lower. I think your 95% white is a long way off and its you who have the blinded man's" glasses and are trying to make everything appear whiter than it actually is.

But I guess you would not care if it was 5% white, which makes me believe your not indigenous so you don't care if it all changes and the memories of our fathers and grandfathers are all gone. Or your extreme labour left? which have stabbed the white working class in the back, you again don't care if it all changes.

here we go with the pigeon holing again... *sigh* - it's not that bad! deal with it!!

You think it is as you make such a HUGE issue out of it - now why is that I wonder?

you and your ilk are trying play King Canute, trying to stop evolution itself from evolving, and the natural movement of our race, which has been ongoing for 10,000's or years, & is a proud part of our collective heritage etc. & so on.

ILLEGAL economic migration is certainly an issue, and is in hand and being dealt with... these things take time.

We find it interesting that the same 3 or 4 posters are collectively propagating the same claptrap, every time a certain word is used… hmmmm.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, as long as it is expressed in a civilised and humane manner. Bear in mind the means and method employed in achieving this may help us to decide if you are dangerous fanatic & a threat from within our own nest…

State Of Emergency: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/State_of_em
ergency

and in relation to the UK:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/State_of_em
ergency#United_Kingd
om

Situations like this invariably lead to complete social break down and potential civil war: http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Civil_war

That means countryman vs countryman, nationalist, commie/red, left, Tory, lib-dem, green, w/e or not...

I ponder sometimes if that's what some people want; 'we' cannot resolve our differences with violence, conflict, slander, harassment & aggression as this is the end result. Is that what some of you want?

As once it gets to that stage there is no going back, and maintaining law & order is the first & only priority. By lethal force if required. Ultimately our own people could die...

& here some of us are having silly contests of words on forums & elsewhere.

That's got to be food for thought...

Freedom is our only hope - CHILDREN OF MEN

95% white???? when cars are imported to the uk, and not manufactured here or imported directly through the manufacturers they are classified as "GREY IMPORTS" I think a large percentage of the 95% white are "grey imports" pols checzs, albanians russians lithuanians columbians, brazilians, White covers a large spectrum. How many people are actually ENGLISH,? oh sorry we are not allowed to be english in england are we, we can be scotish or irish, or british, but NOT english, no wonder the goverment is taking such a bashing in the pols (not polish) opinion pols

People are the same all over the world. When they see a large influx of people from outside of their own country they want to know why, particularly when those people have arrived illegally.

Millions of people have arrived here from Africa and if this government wants to restore any confidence that they have control over our borders, that needs to be reversed by a large extent and yes that does mean deportation as well as stopping further illegals arriving here in the future.

Until some kind of stability is returned to the communities that people have lived in, probably for most of their lives, people will not trust a word any of the main parties say.

When a community is changed drastically in a short space of time without any official explanation then there will be suspicion that all is not what it seems.

That is what is happening in Thurrock and neither the local conservatives on the council or our illustrious Labour MP's are willing to come up with an explanation. The reason being is because they don't want you to know that it is all part of their great plan to "integrate" millions of people into communities outside of London. In doing this they free up valuable housing and land for the developers to get hold of.

When both the Tories and Labour stop trying to hide this and stop actively trying to deceive us then people will have a real choice in how they shoud cast their votes. You either agree with mass, unchecked immigration or you don't. They should stop hiding behind a huge pack of lies.

Hazel Blears should scrap all policies relating to diversity and cohesion that has been forced onto all public bodies at the cost of billions of pounds. it is a complete waste of money as nobody outside of these bodies takes a blind bit of notice and probably don't even know it exists. People aren't going to accept forced integration and that doesn't matter whether they are white, black or sky blue pink.

South Africa is a prime example, where people are now being killed, and they are not even different in colour or culture. So what chance does this government think they have in this country.

Get rid of the TGDC as this is the vehicle that is driving the move of people from London to all of the Thames gateway. Tis development will not benefit the local communities one bit. It is for the benefit of London and the people that live there. Thurrock will be swamped with tens of Thousands of additional people that it cannot cope with and life will become unbearable. The tensions that exist in London at the moment will come with it and they will be magnified beacuse they will affect local communities where people aren't used to seeing and experiencing the hings that happen in London. It needs to stop now.

millions lmao! yet more waffle... have a £3 coin.

Estimates are 1.2 million Nigerians, half a million Somalians, half a million zimbabweans, 150 to 200 thouasnd Congolese and the rest from assorted nations like Ethiopia, Sierra Leone, Chad. These again are not my figures, they are figures from the government and we all know what their estimates are like. Lets take the 100 or so thousand from Eastern Europe that turned out to be well over a million.

But then again this could all be made up just like the Africans that didn't move to Thurrock. Ho hum.

pa wrote:
People are the same all over the world. When they see a large influx of people from outside of their own country they want to know why, particularly when those people have arrived illegally. Millions of people have arrived here from Africa and if this government wants to restore any confidence that they have control over our borders, that needs to be reversed by a large extent and yes that does mean deportation as well as stopping further illegals arriving here in the future. Until some kind of stability is returned to the communities that people have lived in, probably for most of their lives, people will not trust a word any of the main parties say. When a community is changed drastically in a short space of time without any official explanation then there will be suspicion that all is not what it seems. That is what is happening in Thurrock and neither the local conservatives on the council or our illustrious Labour MP's are willing to come up with an explanation. The reason being is because they don't want you to know that it is all part of their great plan to "integrate" millions of people into communities outside of London. In doing this they free up valuable housing and land for the developers to get hold of. When both the Tories and Labour stop trying to hide this and stop actively trying to deceive us then people will have a real choice in how they shoud cast their votes. You either agree with mass, unchecked immigration or you don't. They should stop hiding behind a huge pack of lies. Hazel Blears should scrap all policies relating to diversity and cohesion that has been forced onto all public bodies at the cost of billions of pounds. it is a complete waste of money as nobody outside of these bodies takes a blind bit of notice and probably don't even know it exists. People aren't going to accept forced integration and that doesn't matter whether they are white, black or sky blue pink. South Africa is a prime example, where people are now being killed, and they are not even different in colour or culture. So what chance does this government think they have in this country. Get rid of the TGDC as this is the vehicle that is driving the move of people from London to all of the Thames gateway. Tis development will not benefit the local communities one bit. It is for the benefit of London and the people that live there. Thurrock will be swamped with tens of Thousands of additional people that it cannot cope with and life will become unbearable. The tensions that exist in London at the moment will come with it and they will be magnified beacuse they will affect local communities where people aren't used to seeing and experiencing the hings that happen in London. It needs to stop now.

South Africa large number of deaths and many rapes with rioters claiming foreigners are responsible for rising crime levels and low employment opportunities. A return to the horrific practice of "Necklacing" where a tyre soaked in gasoline Is put around the neck. Targets are largely Zimbabwean immigrants, South Africans however South Africans, accuse Zimbabweans of fuelling the high crime rate causing high unemployment and taking scarce dwellings and jobs. all-Africa.com report that Nigerians, have been attacked and other immigrant groups have also been attacked. Common denominator? high immigration, high unemployment, immigrants taking scarce dwellings, immigrants taking scarce jobs. This lot must all be discrinatory racist fascist Nazi's. When was the british people ever asked if they wanted mass immigration?

My point exactly. But when it happens in a country like South Africa, that shining beacon of fairness and compassion to all mankind? The silence is deafening. Where is Hazel Blears and the rest of the Labour party. Why are they not shouting Xenophobes from the roof tops, or should I say Myopic Xenophobes, afetr all they clearly don't see the big picture either, surley they can't. If they did they'd see that, as you say Michael, they were all a bunch of nasty facist scum bags.

Die Nazi scum, hang on, no I can't hear it.

Another interesting poin't. The population of London is now made up of over 50% of people from ethnic minorities. Over he next 10 years the population is expected to increase by about 800,000. 95% of that increase is expected to come from ethnic minorities. That information is not from a government source, it is from the Guardian newspaper. Surely not.

coo! lots of rhetoric and waffle there, must be getting very rattled. i feel asleep after:

immigrant & Africans - maybe we should send YOU over THERE and see how they deal with your type?

A bit like they do in South Africa I would imagine, where they massacre immigrants. And it's not rhetoric, it's figures published by the paper you read I believe. Or are you more of an Independent reader. Whichever, they are more or less the same.

So Mr Public, your assumption that only 5% of this country'e population is from an ethnic group other than white british, sorry, "Longer term resident", is a bit wide of the mark, a bit like the governments I suppose. I've just thought, you don't work for them do you. Are you their chief statistician.

who do you work for?

Oh I don't think so do you

silly questions will get silly responses... :)

It's people like you Joe Public that ruin this country.

You want to argue that the people worrying about immigrants (I'd like to add that crimewatch is looking more exotic every show) are wrong to do so. But something that DOES worry me is the huge increase of crime in areas of high immigration.

see here:

http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2008/
apr/16/immigrationpo
licy.immigration

I'm hardly ruining the country Danny. trying to stop other people from doing it...