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Changing face of the BNP
FURTHER to the Gazette website story about the Conservatives in Orsett, neither myself or Emma Colgate, who are official spokespersons for Thurrock BNP, have ever spoken to Mr Revell.
On the subject of lies there can be no better example of this than the pathetic Revells who continue to exploit the grief of members of the community who have Jewish ancestry, myself included, to gain cheap political point scoring over their rivals, the British National Party.
Today the BNP is, by world standards, a fairly conventional right-wing populist ethno-nationalist party, that abandoned the fascistic trappings long ago.
After many years of reform, the BNP have managed a decisive break with its past. The BNP's new ideological complexion is vehemently denied by our opponents, both on the left and on the establishment "right" as a matter of convenience.
The accusations of "sell-out" hurled at the present BNP leadership by devotees of the old ways make this transformation perfectly clear, if nothing else does.
Dave Strickson,
Thurrock Organiser, British National Party.
12:06am Wednesday 23rd April 2008
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CommentPosted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 9:20am Wed 23 Apr 08
About time some truth about the BNP was written. The party has broken away from the image the other parties want to portray ( to keep the populous repressed), this is due to the amount of ordinary people who used to vote Labour and conservative (like myself) who have had enough, that are now part of, and voting for the BNP. The two youngish girl's from the BNP that knocked on my door (there the only one's to knock on my door) were the nicest people you could meet, very polite and courteous they even shut the gate on the way out. They were nothing like the image the other parties would have you believe.
About time some truth about the BNP was written. The party has broken away from the image the other parties want to portray ( to keep the populous repressed), this is due to the amount of ordinary people who used to vote Labour and conservative (like myself) who have had enough, that are now part of, and voting for the BNP. The two youngish girl's from the BNP that knocked on my door (there the only one's to knock on my door) were the nicest people you could meet, very polite and courteous they even shut the gate on the way out. They were nothing like the image the other parties would have you believe.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 11:07am Wed 23 Apr 08
naught but spin & verb.
nationalist socialists = vermin. doesn't matter how you pretty it up.
if political uniforms were not outlawed these guys would be wearing one.
BNP - founded by a nazi (tyndall) chaired by another.
naught but spin & verb.
nationalist socialists = vermin. doesn't matter how you pretty it up.
if political uniforms were not outlawed these guys would be wearing one.
BNP - founded by a nazi (tyndall) chaired by another.
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 11:39am Wed 23 Apr 08
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Given the choice I'd rather not vote BNP, but give me a [bold]bold[/bold] good[bold]bold[/bold] reason to vote for the labour or conservative party. The truth is short of berating another party you can't. I am sure people can give reasons not to vote BNP but I can give you many a good reason as to why not to vote for the other 2. You only need to take a walk around Grays town centre to know just how badly both the aforementioned parties have let down the people of the borough.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Given the choice I'd rather not vote BNP, but give me a good reason to vote for the labour or conservative party. The truth is short of berating another party you can't. I am sure people can give reasons not to vote BNP but I can give you many a good reason as to why not to vote for the other 2. You only need to take a walk around Grays town centre to know just how badly both the aforementioned parties have let down the people of the borough.
Posted by: Lisa Sargent, Stanford-le-Hope on 12:02pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Why is everyone so worried about the 'local' elections? Gordon Brown, David Cameron are not! They just want to know who'll you would vote for if a General Election was round the corner. I have waited for the dribble from 'our local' politicions to drop through the door and have looked at what they are hoping to represent when we put our cross against their name, but this is the only time when I am seriously thinking of not voting for any of 'them'. What's the use when the 'locals' don't care along with the politicions who just want your cross? Stay at home, throw your postal ballot in the bin along with 'their' polices.
Why is everyone so worried about the 'local' elections? Gordon Brown, David Cameron are not! They just want to know who'll you would vote for if a General Election was round the corner. I have waited for the dribble from 'our local' politicions to drop through the door and have looked at what they are hoping to represent when we put our cross against their name, but this is the only time when I am seriously thinking of not voting for any of 'them'. What's the use when the 'locals' don't care along with the politicions who just want your cross? Stay at home, throw your postal ballot in the bin along with 'their' polices.
Posted by: pa, grays on 12:17pm Wed 23 Apr 08
the good old days, that doesn't matter. The BNP are nasty evil Nazi's up to no good. I think Joe Public, I thought that tag was reserved for the ordinary man and he seems to be a little out of step with that, is going to round up a posse and run these pesky vermin out of town.
Only trouble is most people think he's targeting the wrong crowd.
Ya boo the jack booted nasty aryan scum. You can't disagree with that argument.
the good old days, that doesn't matter. The BNP are nasty evil Nazi's up to no good. I think Joe Public, I thought that tag was reserved for the ordinary man and he seems to be a little out of step with that, is going to round up a posse and run these pesky vermin out of town.
Only trouble is most people think he's targeting the wrong crowd.
Ya boo the jack booted nasty aryan scum. You can't disagree with that argument.
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 12:50pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Think we'll have to agree to disagree my friend. Not old enough or intellectual enough to have an argument about what has happened in the past, (or indeed the present). I do think evil nazis is a bit strong, but its not aimed at me so hey-ho!
Think we'll have to agree to disagree my friend. Not old enough or intellectual enough to have an argument about what has happened in the past, (or indeed the present). I do think evil nazis is a bit strong, but its not aimed at me so hey-ho!
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 7:33pm Wed 23 Apr 08
there plenty of choices...
Greens or UKIP if you wish to protest vote, as just two examples.
there plenty of choices...
Greens or UKIP if you wish to protest vote, as just two examples.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:15pm Wed 23 Apr 08
New Labour, New Conservatives, New BNP. Voting UKIP or the greens will be a waste of time as they all play the Euro multicultural game. Nothing would change, you would be still at square one.
New Labour, New Conservatives, New BNP. Voting UKIP or the greens will be a waste of time as they all play the Euro multicultural game. Nothing would change, you would be still at square one.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 10:04pm Wed 23 Apr 08
A extract from a site on the net.
THINK-ISRAEL
THE BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY (BNP) GOES STRAIGHT
by Robert Locke
Recent popular votes in several European states against further EU integration have been answered by the EU establishment with plans to continue with the federal project regardless. It has been giving a billion Euros a year (roughly a billion dollars) to the Palestinian Authority, plus the legitimacy of recognition. """The BNP's opposition to such funding, and to the EU itself, therefore places it in a very interesting position for anyone who cares about Israel""". It is, at the very least, an interesting creature to watch, [bold]and not the monster it once was[/bold] .
A totally independent persons view that the BNP have truly changed
A extract from a site on the net.
THINK-ISRAEL
THE BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY (BNP) GOES STRAIGHT
by Robert Locke
Recent popular votes in several European states against further EU integration have been answered by the EU establishment with plans to continue with the federal project regardless. It has been giving a billion Euros a year (roughly a billion dollars) to the Palestinian Authority, plus the legitimacy of recognition. """The BNP's opposition to such funding, and to the EU itself, therefore places it in a very interesting position for anyone who cares about Israel""". It is, at the very least, an interesting creature to watch,
and not the monster it once was .
A totally independent persons view that the BNP have truly changed
Posted by: Aaron, Ockendon, Thurrock on 11:09pm Wed 23 Apr 08
When will the Thurrock Gazette stop giving the BNP all this free publicity?
NO platform for fascists.
When will the Thurrock Gazette stop giving the BNP all this free publicity?
NO platform for fascists.
Posted by: paul, ockendon on 11:40pm Wed 23 Apr 08
Funny how the small gang of anti BNP posters are squealing ever louder as the 1st of may approaches. If mr. strickson has jewish ancestory I can imagine it's quite offensive but for the rest of us it's getting almost comical. A coherent argument would be nice but I expect is to much to ask..
Funny how the small gang of anti BNP posters are squealing ever louder as the 1st of may approaches. If mr. strickson has jewish ancestory I can imagine it's quite offensive but for the rest of us it's getting almost comical. A coherent argument would be nice but I expect is to much to ask..
Posted by: chriso, South Ockendon on 11:57am Thu 24 Apr 08
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?
Posted by: pa, grays on 12:23pm Thu 24 Apr 08
The Nazi's never nationalised industry, that's how they kept the backing of the middle class of Germany, they allowed them to profit from the war by continuing to run busineses. They may have told them what to make but most business was privately owned.
Nationalisation is more a left wing idea.
Centralisation of education. So what do we have in this country now then. Speak to a teacher and they'll tell you they're pretty much centrally controlled.
As for controlling immigration, I couldn't agree more that we need to control it as do the majority of people in this country.
As for encouraging immigrants to leave the country, the Labour party have a nice little number running where covicted immigrants can pocket 3 grand to go back home and not fight deportation after their sentences are up.
So what's the problem with that.
The Nazi's never nationalised industry, that's how they kept the backing of the middle class of Germany, they allowed them to profit from the war by continuing to run busineses. They may have told them what to make but most business was privately owned.
Nationalisation is more a left wing idea.
Centralisation of education. So what do we have in this country now then. Speak to a teacher and they'll tell you they're pretty much centrally controlled.
As for controlling immigration, I couldn't agree more that we need to control it as do the majority of people in this country.
As for encouraging immigrants to leave the country, the Labour party have a nice little number running where covicted immigrants can pocket 3 grand to go back home and not fight deportation after their sentences are up.
So what's the problem with that.
Posted by: spartacus, grays on 4:24pm Thu 24 Apr 08
i always thought sticko was a bit jewish,he would never get a round in.
i always thought sticko was a bit jewish,he would never get a round in.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 12:44am Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]chriso[/bold] wrote:
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?[/quote] ""If the BNP is not a facist (spelt fascist, funny its only bnp that's called idiots or morons when they spell a word incorrectly.) party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis)""
I seem to remember most industries were nationalised in the earlier Labour years. British Rail British Gas, British Airways, British Steel ect,ect ect. (just like the Nazis) [bold]guess that made the Labour Party a fascist party.[/bold]
chriso wrote:
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?
""If the BNP is not a facist (spelt fascist, funny its only bnp that's called idiots or morons when they spell a word incorrectly.) party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis)""
I seem to remember most industries were nationalised in the earlier Labour years. British Rail British Gas, British Airways, British Steel ect,ect ect. (just like the Nazis)
guess that made the Labour Party a fascist party.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 12:46am Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]chriso[/bold] wrote:
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?[/quote] ""If the BNP is not a facist (spelt fascist, funny its only bnp that's called idiots or morons when they spell a word incorrectly.) party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis)""
I seem to remember most industries were nationalised in the earlier Labour years. British Rail British Gas, British Airways, British Steel ect,ect ect. (just like the Nazis) [bold]guess that made the Labour Party a fascist party.[/bold]
chriso wrote:
If the BNP is not a facist party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis) would centrally education and remove all parental choice (just like the Nazis) and would take action to encourage immigrants to move away from this country (just like the Nazis). They act and look like Nazis. Are you sure you're talking about the right party, Dave?
""If the BNP is not a facist (spelt fascist, funny its only bnp that's called idiots or morons when they spell a word incorrectly.) party, why does its election manifestos read as such. The 2005 manifesto makes it clear that the BNP would nationalise most industries (just like the Nazis)""
I seem to remember most industries were nationalised in the earlier Labour years. British Rail British Gas, British Airways, British Steel ect,ect ect. (just like the Nazis)
guess that made the Labour Party a fascist party.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 1:33am Fri 25 Apr 08
Labour a facist party lol!
(slightly off topic)
Barking residents’ thumbs down to BNP St George’s day stunt
A very big disappointment for Richard Barnbrook, BNP mayoral candidate, this morning. After going to all the expense of hiring armour, horse and a green fluffy dragon suit, at 11.00am the man who hopes to get elected to the London Assembly on 1 May got on his horse (well pony) and led a parade – or rather a group that struggled to get into double figures – from the Broadway Theatre in Barking, down East Street and terminating at Barking Park.
It was all over in 30 minutes, no masses of adoring flag waving crowds, in fact nobody at all other than the eight police officers on bikes with their Inspector.
Dicky was not a happy bunny and was last seen heading for the Capt Cook to drown his sorrows.
We wonder whether he has to declare the costs of this farce on his election expenses.
Meanwhile, Searchlight decided to investigate the claim by Bob Bailey, number two on the BNP’s London Assembly list, that the BNP had secured 5,000 new council homes in Barking and Dagenham. The statement appears on the Barking and Dagenham councillor’s biography on the BNP’s London website.
We asked an Executive member of the council where these houses were and how the BNP had secured them. She told us: “They have been pushed and pushed at a number of Assembly meetings to identify this, finally at the meeting before last, Rustem and Bailey both admitted that they had lied”.
Lawrence Rustem, Bailey, Barnbrook and the other nine BNP councillors in Barking and Dagenham were elected on the lie of “Africans for Essex” – the fiction that huge numbers of “African” families were being given grants of £50,000, free televisions etc to move to Barking and Dagenham. It seems that they cannot stop lying.
Labour a facist party lol!
(slightly off topic)
Barking residents’ thumbs down to BNP St George’s day stunt
A very big disappointment for Richard Barnbrook, BNP mayoral candidate, this morning. After going to all the expense of hiring armour, horse and a green fluffy dragon suit, at 11.00am the man who hopes to get elected to the London Assembly on 1 May got on his horse (well pony) and led a parade – or rather a group that struggled to get into double figures – from the Broadway Theatre in Barking, down East Street and terminating at Barking Park.
It was all over in 30 minutes, no masses of adoring flag waving crowds, in fact nobody at all other than the eight police officers on bikes with their Inspector.
Dicky was not a happy bunny and was last seen heading for the Capt Cook to drown his sorrows.
We wonder whether he has to declare the costs of this farce on his election expenses.
Meanwhile, Searchlight decided to investigate the claim by Bob Bailey, number two on the BNP’s London Assembly list, that the BNP had secured 5,000 new council homes in Barking and Dagenham. The statement appears on the Barking and Dagenham councillor’s biography on the BNP’s London website.
We asked an Executive member of the council where these houses were and how the BNP had secured them. She told us: “They have been pushed and pushed at a number of Assembly meetings to identify this, finally at the meeting before last, Rustem and Bailey both admitted that they had lied”.
Lawrence Rustem, Bailey, Barnbrook and the other nine BNP councillors in Barking and Dagenham were elected on the lie of “Africans for Essex” – the fiction that huge numbers of “African” families were being given grants of £50,000, free televisions etc to move to Barking and Dagenham. It seems that they cannot stop lying.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 2:07am Fri 25 Apr 08
Regarding the BNP leaflet some of you (including myself have had shoved thrugh ourletterboxes) & just for good measure:
Arguments have raged over the decision by local newspapers in London to accept an advertisement from the British National Party last week. Searchlight is more interested in the “wholesome” white family that featured in the ad alongside the slogan “People Like You Voting BNP”.
For a start the adults of the family will certainly not be voting BNP in the London elections on 1 May. That’s not because they don’t support the BNP – they do. This is the family of Nick Cass, a longstanding BNP organiser and local election candidate, from that well known London suburb of … West Yorkshire! In this year’s elections he is standing for Kirklees Council as the BNP candidate in Mirfield.
Nick Cass Family
In the newspaper ad, Cass is wearing a dark jacket. When he appeared in the Sky TV programme BNP Wives in January, he was having a massage, which gave us the chance to find out whether his nazism was more than skin deep. For prominent on his right arm, between shoulder and elbow, is a “tree of life” tattoo.
Nick Cass tattoo
This symbol, also known as the life rune, is a favourite among nazi groups worldwide, several of which have adopted it as their logo. Under Hitler it was the symbol of the SS Lebensborn project, which encouraged SS troopers to have children out of wedlock with “Aryan” mothers and kidnapped children of Aryan appearance from the countries of occupied Europe to raise as Germans. To white supremacists today the tree of life signifies the future of the “white race”.
The BNP’s slogan also is not quite what it seems. In fact it was copied from the Front National in France, the leader of which, Jean-Marie Le Pen, has convictions for hate crime and Holocaust denial. Like Cass, Le Pen is not a man Londoners will readily identify with.
Many people have condemned the editors of the various newspapers that ran the BNP ad. Searchlight has discovered that in many cases the decision was imposed on the editors by the papers’ owner, Archant, which describes itself as “the UK’s largest independently-owned regional media business”. Its portfolio includes many London titles including the Hampstead and Highgate Express, the Hackney Gazette, the Barking and Dagenham Post and the Recorder group of papers in East London.
But Archant is unlikely to be to blame for the strange appearance of the BNP ad. The Cass family photo is strangely elongated, as if the designer was unclear how to resize a picture to fit the space. Now the BNP’s chief designer is one Mark Collett of Leeds, a man widely derided in the BNP as incompetent. We see what they mean.
The BNP are definitely not people like us...
Regarding the BNP leaflet some of you (including myself have had shoved thrugh ourletterboxes) & just for good measure:
Arguments have raged over the decision by local newspapers in London to accept an advertisement from the British National Party last week. Searchlight is more interested in the “wholesome” white family that featured in the ad alongside the slogan “People Like You Voting BNP”.
For a start the adults of the family will certainly not be voting BNP in the London elections on 1 May. That’s not because they don’t support the BNP – they do. This is the family of Nick Cass, a longstanding BNP organiser and local election candidate, from that well known London suburb of … West Yorkshire! In this year’s elections he is standing for Kirklees Council as the BNP candidate in Mirfield.
Nick Cass Family
In the newspaper ad, Cass is wearing a dark jacket. When he appeared in the Sky TV programme BNP Wives in January, he was having a massage, which gave us the chance to find out whether his nazism was more than skin deep. For prominent on his right arm, between shoulder and elbow, is a “tree of life” tattoo.
Nick Cass tattoo
This symbol, also known as the life rune, is a favourite among nazi groups worldwide, several of which have adopted it as their logo. Under Hitler it was the symbol of the SS Lebensborn project, which encouraged SS troopers to have children out of wedlock with “Aryan” mothers and kidnapped children of Aryan appearance from the countries of occupied Europe to raise as Germans. To white supremacists today the tree of life signifies the future of the “white race”.
The BNP’s slogan also is not quite what it seems. In fact it was copied from the Front National in France, the leader of which, Jean-Marie Le Pen, has convictions for hate crime and Holocaust denial. Like Cass, Le Pen is not a man Londoners will readily identify with.
Many people have condemned the editors of the various newspapers that ran the BNP ad. Searchlight has discovered that in many cases the decision was imposed on the editors by the papers’ owner, Archant, which describes itself as “the UK’s largest independently-owned regional media business”. Its portfolio includes many London titles including the Hampstead and Highgate Express, the Hackney Gazette, the Barking and Dagenham Post and the Recorder group of papers in East London.
But Archant is unlikely to be to blame for the strange appearance of the BNP ad. The Cass family photo is strangely elongated, as if the designer was unclear how to resize a picture to fit the space. Now the BNP’s chief designer is one Mark Collett of Leeds, a man widely derided in the BNP as incompetent. We see what they mean.
The BNP are definitely not people like us...
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 2:57am Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Mr Joe Public[/bold] wrote:
Labour a facist party lol! (slightly off topic) Barking residents’ thumbs down to BNP St George’s day stunt A very big disappointment for Richard Barnbrook, BNP mayoral candidate, this morning. After going to all the expense of hiring armour, horse and a green fluffy dragon suit, at 11.00am the man who hopes to get elected to the London Assembly on 1 May got on his horse (well pony) and led a parade – or rather a group that struggled to get into double figures – from the Broadway Theatre in Barking, down East Street and terminating at Barking Park. It was all over in 30 minutes, no masses of adoring flag waving crowds, in fact nobody at all other than the eight police officers on bikes with their Inspector. Dicky was not a happy bunny and was last seen heading for the Capt Cook to drown his sorrows. We wonder whether he has to declare the costs of this farce on his election expenses. Meanwhile, Searchlight decided to investigate the claim by Bob Bailey, number two on the BNP’s London Assembly list, that the BNP had secured 5,000 new council homes in Barking and Dagenham. The statement appears on the Barking and Dagenham councillor’s biography on the BNP’s London website. We asked an Executive member of the council where these houses were and how the BNP had secured them. She told us: “They have been pushed and pushed at a number of Assembly meetings to identify this, finally at the meeting before last, Rustem and Bailey both admitted that they had lied”. Lawrence Rustem, Bailey, Barnbrook and the other nine BNP councillors in Barking and Dagenham were elected on the lie of “Africans for Essex” – the fiction that huge numbers of “African” families were being given grants of £50,000, free televisions etc to move to Barking and Dagenham. It seems that they cannot stop lying.[/quote] If “Africans for Essex” was a lie, can you explain why its not all nationalities across the board, but all Africans that moved to Barking and Dagenham till the BNP got elected, and how its mostly all Africans coming to thurrock? My friends ( who actually vote Labour!!!! aaagh) who sold houses in in tilbury asked about money, the Africans told them they had been given a relocation grant. Will you be calling these Africans liars.
Mr Joe Public wrote:
Labour a facist party lol! (slightly off topic) Barking residents’ thumbs down to BNP St George’s day stunt A very big disappointment for Richard Barnbrook, BNP mayoral candidate, this morning. After going to all the expense of hiring armour, horse and a green fluffy dragon suit, at 11.00am the man who hopes to get elected to the London Assembly on 1 May got on his horse (well pony) and led a parade – or rather a group that struggled to get into double figures – from the Broadway Theatre in Barking, down East Street and terminating at Barking Park. It was all over in 30 minutes, no masses of adoring flag waving crowds, in fact nobody at all other than the eight police officers on bikes with their Inspector. Dicky was not a happy bunny and was last seen heading for the Capt Cook to drown his sorrows. We wonder whether he has to declare the costs of this farce on his election expenses. Meanwhile, Searchlight decided to investigate the claim by Bob Bailey, number two on the BNP’s London Assembly list, that the BNP had secured 5,000 new council homes in Barking and Dagenham. The statement appears on the Barking and Dagenham councillor’s biography on the BNP’s London website. We asked an Executive member of the council where these houses were and how the BNP had secured them. She told us: “They have been pushed and pushed at a number of Assembly meetings to identify this, finally at the meeting before last, Rustem and Bailey both admitted that they had lied”. Lawrence Rustem, Bailey, Barnbrook and the other nine BNP councillors in Barking and Dagenham were elected on the lie of “Africans for Essex” – the fiction that huge numbers of “African” families were being given grants of £50,000, free televisions etc to move to Barking and Dagenham. It seems that they cannot stop lying.
If “Africans for Essex” was a lie, can you explain why its not all nationalities across the board, but all Africans that moved to Barking and Dagenham till the BNP got elected, and how its mostly all Africans coming to thurrock? My friends ( who actually vote Labour!!!! aaagh) who sold houses in in tilbury asked about money, the Africans told them they had been given a relocation grant. Will you be calling these Africans liars.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 9:33am Fri 25 Apr 08
Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents.
Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 10:28am Fri 25 Apr 08
I'll still hold out for some formal proof...
Compulsory purchase orders & the Olympics etc
there were no free Bentleys, grants, big tv's etc
In short, the BNP got caught out for imagining things, AGAIN!
I'll still hold out for some formal proof...
Compulsory purchase orders & the Olympics etc
there were no free Bentleys, grants, big tv's etc
In short, the BNP got caught out for imagining things, AGAIN!
Posted by: Lozza, Thurrock on 10:33am Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]EP[/bold] wrote:
Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents. [/quote] Wish one of these Africans would use their grant to buy my house.
Then I could get out of this Borough that I once was proud to call home, sadly that is no longer the case.
EP wrote:
Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents.
Wish one of these Africans would use their grant to buy my house.
Then I could get out of this Borough that I once was proud to call home, sadly that is no longer the case.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 4:03pm Fri 25 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Lozza[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]EP[/bold] wrote: Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents. [/quote] Wish one of these Africans would use their grant to buy my house. Then I could get out of this Borough that I once was proud to call home, sadly that is no longer the case.[/quote] You and many of the residents in Thurrock Lozza. How far do we keep running until we turn and fight?
Lozza wrote:
EP wrote: Africans are definately being given relocation grants to move to Thurrock. They are supposed to pay it back if they sell up, thats why some of them have done runners and left the houses in the hands of the estate agents.
Wish one of these Africans would use their grant to buy my house. Then I could get out of this Borough that I once was proud to call home, sadly that is no longer the case.
You and many of the residents in Thurrock Lozza. How far do we keep running until we turn and fight?
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:26pm Fri 25 Apr 08
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:30pm Fri 25 Apr 08
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:30pm Fri 25 Apr 08
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Lozza;
a friends friend is leaving for spain she has had enough, too many immigrants here and getting the houses, she thinks its a 5hit h*le so she's off. Your not alone, but EP Omnipresent is correct, how far do we keep running until we turn and fight for what's ours? have some courage on May1st vote BNP then you'll know some one is in your corner.
Joe;
My Labour voting friends are lying the Africans they spoke to are lying. Everybody is lying except you joe. Again i ask why so many Africans in Barking and Dagenham and now thurrock and not a cross section of different nationalities. Were is your proof that there is no scheme Africans for Essex. Were is your proof that relocation grants are a lie even though it was some one from uaf who called them that after ostracising a BNP for calling them handouts, Is the uaf person a liar too.
Posted by: pa, grays on 7:20am Sat 26 Apr 08
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal.
Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock.
This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics.
We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now?
The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for.
If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal.
Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock.
This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics.
We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now?
The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for.
If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:43pm Sat 26 Apr 08
[quote][bold]pa[/bold] wrote:
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal. Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock. This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics. We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now? The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for. If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.[/quote] Posted by: Paul, Thurrock on 4:23pm Tue 27 Nov 07
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is [bold]a Labour[/bold] [bold]Party Councillor?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who [bold]put forward Trust to[/bold] [bold]recieve a National Lottery[/bold] [bold]Grant?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who helped [bold]Trust obtain a £750,000[/bold] [bold]donation from Thurrock[/bold] [bold]Taxpayers?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who is also a member of Trust.
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is a Labour Party Councillor?
pa wrote:
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal. Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock. This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics. We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now? The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for. If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.
Posted by: Paul, Thurrock on 4:23pm Tue 27 Nov 07
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is
a Labour Party Councillor? The same Yash Gupta who
put forward Trust to recieve a National Lottery Grant? The same Yash Gupta who helped
Trust obtain a £750,000 donation from Thurrock Taxpayers? The same Yash Gupta who is also a member of Trust.
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is a Labour Party Councillor?
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 8:44pm Sat 26 Apr 08
[quote][bold]pa[/bold] wrote:
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal. Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock. This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics. We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now? The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for. If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.[/quote] Posted by: Paul, Thurrock on 4:23pm Tue 27 Nov 07
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is [bold]a Labour[/bold] [bold]Party Councillor?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who [bold]put forward Trust to[/bold] [bold]recieve a National Lottery[/bold] [bold]Grant?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who helped [bold]Trust obtain a £750,000[/bold] [bold]donation from Thurrock[/bold] [bold]Taxpayers?[/bold] The same Yash Gupta who is also a member of Trust.
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is a Labour Party Councillor?
pa wrote:
T.R.U.S.T. (Thurrock Racial Unity Support Task Force) have just issued a thinly veiled attack on the BNP by telling anyone who hears, sees, or has a suspicion of anything racist going on in the run up to the elections, to report it to the police because it may be illegal. Sounds like an attempt to scare people away from airing their views on the current climate in Thurrock. This organisation is chaired by a Black African recently arrived in Thurrock. This is the type of thing that goes on in London. Publicly funded organisations that represent one element of the residents of Thurrock, again a recently arrived element, poking their nose into politics. We have never had the need in Thurrock for this type of organisation so why the need now? The council gave this organisation the largest voluntary grant to be issued this year £81,000. And this is the type of thing they want to use that grant for. If anything tells you the extent to which things in Thurrock have changed recently, then this is surely it.
Posted by: Paul, Thurrock on 4:23pm Tue 27 Nov 07
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is
a Labour Party Councillor? The same Yash Gupta who
put forward Trust to recieve a National Lottery Grant? The same Yash Gupta who helped
Trust obtain a £750,000 donation from Thurrock Taxpayers? The same Yash Gupta who is also a member of Trust.
Is this the same Yash Gupta who is a Labour Party Councillor?
Posted by: spartacus, grays on 5:04pm Sun 27 Apr 08
white flight is really taking hold in thurrock,people are selling up and leaving in droves.
white flight is really taking hold in thurrock,people are selling up and leaving in droves.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 5:44pm Sun 27 Apr 08
[bold]white flight is really taking hold in thurrock,people are selling up and leaving in droves.[/bold]
This is because of labours dream of muliculeralism. What benefits does it bring to an area? The only people that benefit is the imigrants moving in. They move in and the indiginous people move out, nothing to do with the colour of peoples skin, its all to do with the way they behave.
white flight is really taking hold in thurrock,people are selling up and leaving in droves.
This is because of labours dream of muliculeralism. What benefits does it bring to an area? The only people that benefit is the imigrants moving in. They move in and the indiginous people move out, nothing to do with the colour of peoples skin, its all to do with the way they behave.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 9:13am Mon 28 Apr 08
The British Solution to Saving Petrol
Brown wants us to cut the amount of petrol we use......
The best way to stop using so much petrol is to deport 3 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 3 million less people using our petrol. The price of petrol would come down.....
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Channel....
When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the Channel, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq .....
Tell him if he wants to come to Britain then he must serve a tour in the military....
Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....
After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country.....
He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal resident.... .
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. .....
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo......
Problem solved....
The British Solution to Saving Petrol
Brown wants us to cut the amount of petrol we use......
The best way to stop using so much petrol is to deport 3 million illegal immigrants!
That would be 3 million less people using our petrol. The price of petrol would come down.....
Bring our troops home from Iraq to guard the Channel....
When they catch an illegal immigrant crossing the Channel, hand him a canteen, rifle and some ammo and ship him to Iraq .....
Tell him if he wants to come to Britain then he must serve a tour in the military....
Give him a soldier's pay while he's there and tax him on it.....
After his tour, he will be allowed to become a citizen since he defended this country.....
He will also be registered to be taxed and be a legal resident.... .
This option will probably deter illegal immigration and provide a solution for the troops in Iraq and the aliens trying to make a better life for themselves.. .....
If they refuse to serve, ship them to Iraq anyway, without the canteen, rifle or ammo......
Problem solved....
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 9:32am Mon 28 Apr 08
Its all very simple. POWER . Labour want to stay in power so they are importing votes. Dispatches on channel 4 said, 4 out of 5 immigrants vote labour, that's there powerbase and they throw carrots to their extreme leftwing bully arm searchlight who want multiculturalism, but they are being mugged off as much as the white working class are, but cant see they are being used to keep labour in POWER, Labour don't care about anyone.
And your petrol idea isn't far from a solution.
Its all very simple. POWER . Labour want to stay in power so they are importing votes. Dispatches on channel 4 said, 4 out of 5 immigrants vote labour, that's there powerbase and they throw carrots to their extreme leftwing bully arm searchlight who want multiculturalism, but they are being mugged off as much as the white working class are, but cant see they are being used to keep labour in POWER, Labour don't care about anyone.
And your petrol idea isn't far from a solution.
Posted by: Thomas Johns, Essex on 5:11pm Mon 28 Apr 08
I am white and moved from Dagenham 2 years ago to Thurrock without any help from the Council. I sold the house I bought from the council 16 years ago for a big profit bought a bigger house for a lot less in Thurrock ended up with enough to buy a nice car and new work van. My new neighbour has just done the same but made more money because he lived in Newham and hasnt got a mortgage to pay.we cant have been the only ones
I am white and moved from Dagenham 2 years ago to Thurrock without any help from the Council. I sold the house I bought from the council 16 years ago for a big profit bought a bigger house for a lot less in Thurrock ended up with enough to buy a nice car and new work van. My new neighbour has just done the same but made more money because he lived in Newham and hasnt got a mortgage to pay.we cant have been the only ones
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 7:56pm Mon 28 Apr 08
"africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle. also poking fun that "thurrock bnp" are a one family out fit all with the same sir name
lmao
sorry but I have to laugh at EP's "solutions"
dear sweet Lord we have such a long way to go...
"africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle. also poking fun that "thurrock bnp" are a one family out fit all with the same sir name
lmao
sorry but I have to laugh at EP's "solutions"
dear sweet Lord we have such a long way to go...
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 10:46pm Mon 28 Apr 08
Mr Joe Public, like the majority of people in this country you are a complete fool that has no idea what is really going on. You carry on with your head stuck in the sand while the country crumbles around you.
Mr Joe Public, like the majority of people in this country you are a complete fool that has no idea what is really going on. You carry on with your head stuck in the sand while the country crumbles around you.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 11:45pm Mon 28 Apr 08
why thanks for those generic generalisations, strange that 'we' are in the majority isn't it?
BNP = Vermin & vermin need to be managed.
why thanks for those generic generalisations, strange that 'we' are in the majority isn't it?
BNP = Vermin & vermin need to be managed.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 11:56pm Mon 28 Apr 08
& I'm clearly more informed on the state of affairs in the uk than yourself... cheers.
& I'm clearly more informed on the state of affairs in the uk than yourself... cheers.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 5:36am Tue 29 Apr 08
Mr Public, if you were more informed you'd be taking a different stance, take off your rose tinted specs, put down your copy of the guardian and get out into the real world. Speak to the people in the street and maybe you might educate yourself.
Mr Public, if you were more informed you'd be taking a different stance, take off your rose tinted specs, put down your copy of the guardian and get out into the real world. Speak to the people in the street and maybe you might educate yourself.
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 8:59am Tue 29 Apr 08
Ideally a middle ground would be nice. Agreed Mr.Public does wear rose tinted specs regarding the state of the country as anyone can see the powers that be have let the country slump into mediocrity. I'm sure in the world of Gordon Brown et al everything does look rosy. Then again they don't live in Thurrock.
By the same token don't really see the British solution to petrol taking off EP. Good idea in theory though.
As for the BNP being Vermin?.Could say the same about Labour and Tories. It just depends on who you support. I'm definitely not a politician but surely to all concerned this country is on its knees and needs to change radically. Are the Tory or Labour party the answer?...They have never been so yet!
Ideally a middle ground would be nice. Agreed Mr.Public does wear rose tinted specs regarding the state of the country as anyone can see the powers that be have let the country slump into mediocrity. I'm sure in the world of Gordon Brown et al everything does look rosy. Then again they don't live in Thurrock.
By the same token don't really see the British solution to petrol taking off EP. Good idea in theory though.
As for the BNP being Vermin?.Could say the same about Labour and Tories. It just depends on who you support. I'm definitely not a politician but surely to all concerned this country is on its knees and needs to change radically. Are the Tory or Labour party the answer?...They have never been so yet!
Posted by: pa, grays on 8:59am Tue 29 Apr 08
Mr Public if you want proof that grants are given to Coucil tenants in London, go and see Thurrock Coucils website and you will have your proof.
Why do you think Red Ken Loves the Thames Gateway project so much? He wants to move as many London Council Tenants as he can into the Thames Gateway to free up houses in London to meet his targets for affordable housing.
As a large proportion of London Council and housing association tenants are former immigrants, then you have your explanation why so many black Africans are moving to Thurrock.
I suppose this is another myth though. And this is why councils in London spend Hundreds of Thousands on hiring interpreteurs so new immigrant tenants can be told about their rights to benefits. In most London Borough's over 60% of social housing tenants are on benefits.
Grants vary in size and the CIS grant is not the only assistance that is available to move.
You're talking crap Mr Public.
Mr Public if you want proof that grants are given to Coucil tenants in London, go and see Thurrock Coucils website and you will have your proof.
Why do you think Red Ken Loves the Thames Gateway project so much? He wants to move as many London Council Tenants as he can into the Thames Gateway to free up houses in London to meet his targets for affordable housing.
As a large proportion of London Council and housing association tenants are former immigrants, then you have your explanation why so many black Africans are moving to Thurrock.
I suppose this is another myth though. And this is why councils in London spend Hundreds of Thousands on hiring interpreteurs so new immigrant tenants can be told about their rights to benefits. In most London Borough's over 60% of social housing tenants are on benefits.
Grants vary in size and the CIS grant is not the only assistance that is available to move.
You're talking crap Mr Public.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 9:03am Tue 29 Apr 08
Good post pa, I don't think Mr J Public will take it in to his/her brainwashed head.
Good post pa, I don't think Mr J Public will take it in to his/her brainwashed head.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 6:47pm Tue 29 Apr 08
haha! sorry guys "africans for essex" was a load of xenophobic racist nonsense!
the only people brainwashed are yourselves for falling for such tripe!
pop out and read the local gvt chronicle, i can get an assistance grant to relocate elsewhere, strange that i am a white british male isnt it?
haha! sorry guys "africans for essex" was a load of xenophobic racist nonsense!
the only people brainwashed are yourselves for falling for such tripe!
pop out and read the local gvt chronicle, i can get an assistance grant to relocate elsewhere, strange that i am a white british male isnt it?
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 6:52pm Tue 29 Apr 08
& immigrants are not eligible for benefits for a whole year. How many times, yet more nationalist bull!
FYI as I goes I read the independent. You may wish to put down the express/daily mail/sun/daily sport and read a decent newspaper.
clearly not all that clued up at all.
& immigrants are not eligible for benefits for a whole year. How many times, yet more nationalist bull!
FYI as I goes I read the independent. You may wish to put down the express/daily mail/sun/daily sport and read a decent newspaper.
clearly not all that clued up at all.
Posted by: paul, ockendon on 10:14pm Tue 29 Apr 08
[quote]strange that i am a white british male isnt it?[/quote]
No , you're just very strange.
strange that i am a white british male isnt it?
No , you're just very strange.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 5:46am Wed 30 Apr 08
Joe Public, when the time comes you and your traitorous band of lefties will be swinging from the gallows.
Joe Public, when the time comes you and your traitorous band of lefties will be swinging from the gallows.
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 7:40am Wed 30 Apr 08
Mister Public, What difference does it make whether I read the Sun,Sport,or Lawnmowers weekly?..(or in fairness the guardian).Get off your bloody high horse!..Rascism has taken over the english language and is now more popular than "the & and".(not a fact just a topical opinion).its just a shame that it only works one way.
Mister Public, What difference does it make whether I read the Sun,Sport,or Lawnmowers weekly?..(or in fairness the guardian).Get off your bloody high horse!..Rascism has taken over the english language and is now more popular than "the & and".(not a fact just a topical opinion).its just a shame that it only works one way.
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 7:43am Wed 30 Apr 08
Sorry that should have been spelt racism. Donkey!
Sorry that should have been spelt racism. Donkey!
Posted by: the good ol days, grays on 7:46am Wed 30 Apr 08
Note to self: stop reading lawnmowers weekly and order independent!
Note to self: stop reading lawnmowers weekly and order independent!
Posted by: pa, grays on 8:28am Wed 30 Apr 08
Mr Public you missed or purposely skipped round the point.
You're clearly stressed by the whole thing so I'll try and make it simple.
Immigrants get given council houses ahead of people who've lived here all their lives and probably have generations of family that live here too.
Immigrants then get paid tens of thousands of pounds to give up that free council house to move somewhere else and buy a property.
Taxpayers, me and maybe you, foot the bill.
Local people get pi**ed off because they can see whats happening to the area they used to live in.
This government purposely move people to the Thames gateway area to fulfil their multicultural eutopian society. A society that most people don't want.
I haven't been given a council house that I can give up for a big fat pile of cash so that I can buy a place somewhere else so why should someone from another country be entitled to it before me.
I reckon I've contributed far more to this country in taxes than any of the current African immigrants that are here so why didn't I get the opportunity.
Incidentally a ya boo jack is part of a chant used by socialist idealists when they can't find a relevant or coherant response to comments they don't agree with.
It's usually used with a smattering of words like racist, scum, nazi, bigot, and others I can't print.
It's so ingrained in some of these people, they suffer from tourets like symptoms any time they see or hear something not quite pc or against their views.
Just the other day I was talking to my gran in the street and she was lamenting the passing of old nursery rhymes like bah bah black sheep when all of a sudden one of these people jumped out on her and shouted ya boo jack booted nazi scum dog.
He was last seen running down the street shouting die nazi scum in a sort of crazed manner.
So good old days if you have one of these in your car, approach with caution and make sure no children are present as some of the words can be quite explicit.
I'm thinking of asking TRUST to set up a support group for them.
Has anyone found a copy of their accounts yet?
Perhaps you'd be interested in this Mr Public
Mr Public you missed or purposely skipped round the point.
You're clearly stressed by the whole thing so I'll try and make it simple.
Immigrants get given council houses ahead of people who've lived here all their lives and probably have generations of family that live here too.
Immigrants then get paid tens of thousands of pounds to give up that free council house to move somewhere else and buy a property.
Taxpayers, me and maybe you, foot the bill.
Local people get pi**ed off because they can see whats happening to the area they used to live in.
This government purposely move people to the Thames gateway area to fulfil their multicultural eutopian society. A society that most people don't want.
I haven't been given a council house that I can give up for a big fat pile of cash so that I can buy a place somewhere else so why should someone from another country be entitled to it before me.
I reckon I've contributed far more to this country in taxes than any of the current African immigrants that are here so why didn't I get the opportunity.
Incidentally a ya boo jack is part of a chant used by socialist idealists when they can't find a relevant or coherant response to comments they don't agree with.
It's usually used with a smattering of words like racist, scum, nazi, bigot, and others I can't print.
It's so ingrained in some of these people, they suffer from tourets like symptoms any time they see or hear something not quite pc or against their views.
Just the other day I was talking to my gran in the street and she was lamenting the passing of old nursery rhymes like bah bah black sheep when all of a sudden one of these people jumped out on her and shouted ya boo jack booted nazi scum dog.
He was last seen running down the street shouting die nazi scum in a sort of crazed manner.
So good old days if you have one of these in your car, approach with caution and make sure no children are present as some of the words can be quite explicit.
I'm thinking of asking TRUST to set up a support group for them.
Has anyone found a copy of their accounts yet?
Perhaps you'd be interested in this Mr Public
Posted by: pa, grays on 8:43am Wed 30 Apr 08
And Mr public some immigrants are not entitled to benefits, mainly single people.
But once their claims for asylum are accepted, nice comfy council or housing association pad supplied, paid for by us.
You should stop reading the LGC as well. It only prints what it's audience wants to hear. Why would a mag written soley for the consumption of local government write anything likely to cause concern among their captive audience.
I've got two £25 notes you can buy for a tenner if you're interested.
And Mr public some immigrants are not entitled to benefits, mainly single people.
But once their claims for asylum are accepted, nice comfy council or housing association pad supplied, paid for by us.
You should stop reading the LGC as well. It only prints what it's audience wants to hear. Why would a mag written soley for the consumption of local government write anything likely to cause concern among their captive audience.
I've got two £25 notes you can buy for a tenner if you're interested.
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 9:25am Wed 30 Apr 08
[quote][bold]Mr Joe Public[/bold] wrote:
"africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle. also poking fun that "thurrock bnp" are a one family out fit all with the same sir name lmao sorry but I have to laugh at EP's "solutions" dear sweet Lord we have such a long way to go... [/quote] Bean reading your posts. You are always going on about proof without giving any your self.
""Africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle"".????. Is that the Conservative controlled thurrock council, the same council who wrote in there news paper.
CONSERVATIVES CONNECTED.(NEWS CIRCULAR)
Immigration Chaos. Its time to get to grips with immigration!
Our public services,NHS,Schools
, benefits system under severs strain and severe housing shortage.
Sue Macpherson Tory candidate homesteads! ""The so called benefits of migrant labour are revealed as a myth"""
Taxpayers bill for the immigration service rose from £300 million 98-99 to £1.5 billion 05-05. What a contrast.
Also phoned up BNP, asked for dave, never done nazi salutes, can you supply a link to these pictures as your proof.
Mr Joe Public wrote:
"africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle. also poking fun that "thurrock bnp" are a one family out fit all with the same sir name lmao sorry but I have to laugh at EP's "solutions" dear sweet Lord we have such a long way to go...
Bean reading your posts. You are always going on about proof without giving any your self.
""Africans for essex" was a complete lie as published in various publications, including the local govt chronicle"".????. Is that the Conservative controlled thurrock council, the same council who wrote in there news paper.
CONSERVATIVES CONNECTED.(NEWS CIRCULAR)
Immigration Chaos. Its time to get to grips with immigration!
Our public services,NHS,Schools
, benefits system under severs strain and severe housing shortage.
Sue Macpherson Tory candidate homesteads! ""The so called benefits of migrant labour are revealed as a myth"""
Taxpayers bill for the immigration service rose from £300 million 98-99 to £1.5 billion 05-05. What a contrast.
Also phoned up BNP, asked for dave, never done nazi salutes, can you supply a link to these pictures as your proof.
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 10:09am Wed 30 Apr 08
Not only have we paid more tax into this country than many of the African immigrants but our tax money is wasted on benefits being given to Africa. How much more of our money is going to be wasted on this bottomless pit. I wonder how many of the affluent Africans around here put their hands in their pockets on red nose day and other charitable events centered on helping Africa. We owe that country nothing.
Not only have we paid more tax into this country than many of the African immigrants but our tax money is wasted on benefits being given to Africa. How much more of our money is going to be wasted on this bottomless pit. I wonder how many of the affluent Africans around here put their hands in their pockets on red nose day and other charitable events centered on helping Africa. We owe that country nothing.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 10:52am Wed 30 Apr 08
yr certainly amusing it'll give you that.
don't forget to vote!
i would welcome a bnp councillor, so you can see for yourselves how useless & what a poor track record the bnp have.
watch out for all the islamofascists under the bed lol
yr certainly amusing it'll give you that.
don't forget to vote!
i would welcome a bnp councillor, so you can see for yourselves how useless & what a poor track record the bnp have.
watch out for all the islamofascists under the bed lol
Posted by: EP, Omnipresent on 12:53pm Wed 30 Apr 08
So we vote labour then do we Joe Public? The party that has us worse off than I can ever remember and treats the white working class like peasants. Most people are not voting bnp because they think they will work wonders they are voting for them to make a stand against the anti English leftie brigade.
So we vote labour then do we Joe Public? The party that has us worse off than I can ever remember and treats the white working class like peasants. Most people are not voting bnp because they think they will work wonders they are voting for them to make a stand against the anti English leftie brigade.
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 11:43pm Wed 30 Apr 08
lefie brigade lol
i'm a lefite now am i?
typical nationalist drivel *yawn*
lefie brigade lol
i'm a lefite now am i?
typical nationalist drivel *yawn*
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 12:10am Thu 1 May 08
ah the pennies just dropped as to what the problem is, you appear to be under the misconception that the NF, oh silly me, BNP's comedy pages constitute a valid news source.
I'm afraid there not, and are not carried by ANY of the news correlation sources for very good reason.
Racial & religiously driven simcity politics, nonsense and gibberish
the so called liarsbu****sand thieves is open to debate, and has nearly had him sued to **** on more than on occasion, if memory serves. somewhat economical with the facts in places. not all granted.
but would agree, the darker side of human nature exists in any party. just more so within the bnp.
it's not as if some nutty nationalists blog forms much of a defence anyway...
what's next albert mariner? please...
re: pics they are still up on the site for all to see. also were mailed to the h/o of all political opponents and of course the authorities. extremists of any nature are my bread and butter.
& for the last time NO ECONOMIC MIGRANT IS ENTITLED TO ANY BENEFITS FOR A WHOLE YEAR!!!
ah the pennies just dropped as to what the problem is, you appear to be under the misconception that the NF, oh silly me, BNP's comedy pages constitute a valid news source.
I'm afraid there not, and are not carried by ANY of the news correlation sources for very good reason.
Racial & religiously driven simcity politics, nonsense and gibberish
the so called liarsbu****sand thieves is open to debate, and has nearly had him sued to **** on more than on occasion, if memory serves. somewhat economical with the facts in places. not all granted.
but would agree, the darker side of human nature exists in any party. just more so within the bnp.
it's not as if some nutty nationalists blog forms much of a defence anyway...
what's next albert mariner? please...
re: pics they are still up on the site for all to see. also were mailed to the h/o of all political opponents and of course the authorities. extremists of any nature are my bread and butter.
& for the last time NO ECONOMIC MIGRANT IS ENTITLED TO ANY BENEFITS FOR A WHOLE YEAR!!!
Posted by: Mr Joe Public, Thurrock on 2:36am Thu 1 May 08
regarding mr fish's comment on "The so called benefits of migrant labour are revealed as a myth"
read on:
IMMIGRATION IS OF "NO ECONOMIC" BENEFIT...
Interesting that different sources give different twists on it:
Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/pages/live/ar
ticles/news/news.htm
l?in_article_id=5486
28&in_page_id=1770
The Times:
http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/news/po
litics/article365617
1.ece
The Independent:
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/uk/pol
itics/immigration-an
d-economics-report-s
parks-debate-803200.
html
The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2008/
apr/01/immigrationpo
licy.immigrationandp
ublicservices
When the actual issue at hand is this:
"Immigration minister Liam Byrne has rejected demands for a cap in immigration, saying the government's new points-based system was a better solution to control non-EU migration."
& this:
"The cap, which is official Conservative policy,- would mean reducing the flow to Britain of those from outside Europe who come on work permits, as students or for family reunion purposes."
& the end result is this:
"So the Home Office submitted new evidence to the inquiry based on a Low Pay Commission research study, showing that every British citizen is, on average, £30 a year better off as a result of the impact of immigration."
As opposed to the far rights - "BLOODY FOREIGNERS! P*** OFF!" due to chronic xenophobia, amongst other various chronic conditions.
So it's all a bit of a moot point really...
regarding mr fish's comment on "The so called benefits of migrant labour are revealed as a myth"
read on:
IMMIGRATION IS OF "NO ECONOMIC" BENEFIT...
Interesting that different sources give different twists on it:
Daily Mail:
http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/pages/live/ar
ticles/news/news.htm
l?in_article_id=5486
28&in_page_id=1770
The Times:
http://www.timesonli
ne.co.uk/tol/news/po
litics/article365617
1.ece
The Independent:
http://www.independe
nt.co.uk/news/uk/pol
itics/immigration-an
d-economics-report-s
parks-debate-803200.
html
The Guardian:
http://www.guardian.
co.uk/politics/2008/
apr/01/immigrationpo
licy.immigrationandp
ublicservices
When the actual issue at hand is this:
"Immigration minister Liam Byrne has rejected demands for a cap in immigration, saying the government's new points-based system was a better solution to control non-EU migration."
& this:
"The cap, which is official Conservative policy,- would mean reducing the flow to Britain of those from outside Europe who come on work permits, as students or for family reunion purposes."
& the end result is this:
"So the Home Office submitted new evidence to the inquiry based on a Low Pay Commission research study, showing that every British citizen is, on average, £30 a year better off as a result of the impact of immigration."
As opposed to the far rights - "BLOODY FOREIGNERS! P*** OFF!" due to chronic xenophobia, amongst other various chronic conditions.
So it's all a bit of a moot point really...
Posted by: Michael Fish, orsett on 9:31am Thu 1 May 08
[quote][bold]Mr Joe Public[/bold] wrote:
regarding mr fish's comment on "The so called benefits of migrant labour are revealed as a myth" read on: IMMIGRATION IS OF "NO ECONOMIC" BENEFIT... Interesting that different sources give different twists on it: Daily Mail: http://www.dailymail .co.uk/pages/live/ar ticles/news/news.htm l?in_article_id=5486 28&in_page_id=1770 The Times: http://www.timesonli ne.co.uk/tol/news/po litics/article365617 1.ece The Independent: http://www.independe nt.co.uk/news/uk/pol itics/immigration-an d-economics-report-s parks-debate-803200. html The Guardian: http://www.guardian. co.uk/politics/2008/ apr/01/immigrationpo licy.immigrationandp ublicservices When the actual issue at hand is this: "Immigration minister Liam Byrne has rejected demands for a cap in immigration, saying the government's new points-based system was a better solution to control non-EU migration." & this: "The cap, which is official Conservative policy,- would mean reducing the flow to Britain of those from outside Europe who come on work permits, as students or for family reunion purposes." & the end result is this: "So the Home Office submitted new evidence to the inquiry based on a Low Pay Commission research study, showing that every British citizen is, on average, £30 a year better off as a result of the impact of immigration." As opposed to the far rights - "BLOODY FOREIGNERS! P*** OFF!" due to chronic xenophobia, amongst other various chronic conditions. So it's all a bit of a moot point really...[/quote] Its all left wing stuff, half of these are in your organisations UAF and SEARCHLIGHT. Its the same as ken livingstone being your proof. I want independent real proof, not one of your buddies. Immigration minister Liam Byrne is one of the people who want to flood our country. And your angle of the BNP policie is quiet a bit different to what's written.
As opposed to the far rights - "BLOODY FOREIGNERS! P*** OFF!" due to chronic xenophobia, amongst other various chronic conditions.
BNP Policies
By News Team February 28, 2008
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To
